artificial growth hormone (rBST) debate
The Environment section of the December issue of Voices -due out Friday Nov. 30th- has an expose on the Monsanto-driven organizing effort to ban rBST-free labeling in Pa. It was as close to extortion as you can imagine - the "industry" claiming farmers must receive a "premium" if they LOSE business by not switching off the antibiotics. These guys are the biggest of the free marketeers and now they want the Pa government to come save them from a market moving to rBST-free milk by jacking up the price on ALL milk - more than $1 million per week in extra milk costs.
Our dairy farmer friends tell us of milk thick and creamy thanks to the pus caused by the mastitis they witnessed in rBST-treated cows. they speak of antibiotics getting pumped in to get rid of the pus and wondering how so many drugs can go in one end and not out the other...Tell YOUR stories here and let the world know -
It's the story the New York Times didn't get. Only a local paper with local connections could confirm this kind of information...Believe it.
And congratulations to everyone who called and wrote and delayed the hearing on this insane ban! What's next?


Here's the whole rBST Article from the December Issue
Dairy industry Forces rBST-Free Label Ban
From the December 2007 Issue of Voices!
food advisory committee members
In my story I tell readers that the Ag Dept spokesperson Chris Ryder told me they didn't take attendance at the food label advisory committee meeting that was called to discuss milk labeling (even though that never shows up on the written agenda). But one attendee at the meeting now tells me that in fact there is a list of who attended - and here it is:
Food Labeling Advisory Committee Meeting 10/5/07
1. Bonnie McCarthy, Pennsylvanians for Affordable Nutrition2. Dr. Terry Etherton, Penn State Dairy and Animal Science
3. Jen Ebersole, PA Dept of Health
4. Mary Bach, consumer advocate
5. Beth Holmes, I-CAAN/PANA
6. Althea Zanecosky, Mid-Atlantic Dairy Association
7. Bob Stewart, PA Food Processors Association
8. Bob Higgins, St. Joseph’s University Center for Food Marketing
9. Vonda Fekete, PA Dept of Education
10. Annette Knapp, PA Food Merchants Association
11. Leslie Zuck, PA Certified Organic Person
12. Charlene Wandzilak, PA Veterinary Medical Association
13. Dr. Lisa Murphy, PA Veterinary Medical Association
14. Sheila Christopher, PA Association of Regional Food Banks
15. Pat Conway, PA Restaurant Association
16. Dan Brandt, Producer [a letter he posted on Dr. Terry Etherton’s Penn State blog is here: http://blogs.das.psu.edu/tetherton/2007/06/20/rbst-bomb-drops-in-lebanon-county-pennsylvania/]17. Russell Redding, Executive Deputy Secretary of Ag
18. Bill Wehry, Deputy Secretary of Ag and Consumer Protection
19. Cheryl Cook, Deputy Secretary of Ag and Markets
20. Michael Pechart, Executive Assistant to the Secretary of Ag
21. Bill Chirdon, Director of Bureau of Food Safety and Laboratory Services, Dept of Ag
22. Frank Jurbala, Director, Bureau of Market Development, Dept of Ag
23. Brook Duer, Chief Counsel, Dept of AgOur sources tell us that Pennsylvanians for Affordable Nutrition, which is staffed by professional lobbyists, is actually a front group for the industry. They show up in suspicious places and I'm beginning to believe it's true, but others who'd done more research on this can speak to it.
Here's another letter about Growth Hormone and Monsato
Please Send Your Message about Growth Hormone to Gov. Rendell NOW!
A new blog entry we posted for our friends in Oregon, Rick North and Oregon Physicians for Social Responsibility.
Skeptical
It is reasonable to me to require that only meaningful, objectively verifiable claims be made on food labels, because such a requirement ultimately protects the consumer. Since chemical tests cannot detect rBGH in milk, this would certainly rule out a label which states "This Milk is rBGH Free". On the other hand, a regime could be set up to verify the claim "This Milk Comes From Cows Which Were Not Treated With rBGH". For example, one could require random blood tests for the herd from which such milk came.
On the issue of IGF-1, it appears to me that, to the extent that it is a health hazard, the best approach is to deal with it directly. Set a maximum safe level for it in milk. Test milk for its presence and require that milk which exceeds the level cannot be sold.
Antibiotics in milk should be treated in a similar fashion to IGF-1.
I am left unconvinced that rBGH is a major health hazard, but if there is consumer demand for rBGH-free milk and there is no danger to the consumer from such milk, then I say give them what they want, with the proviso of meaningful, verifiable labeling.
PS. I like the new interface.
rBST
Veblen, I have to wonder why Monsanto can test for the most microscopic of entities in their products, develop products at the genetic level, and yet hasn't developed a test for rBST - maybe because that's against its interests? Any chance of that?
But the scientific debate creates a distraction. Like you said, if it's what people want...We have certification for organics and we can develop certification for rBST-free if necessary. In fact I was speaking to folks in Harrisburg today and it looks like what Dep. Sec. Cook in my story refers to will probably happen. These labels won't go away and some kind of verification will be put in place. But I'm sure Monsanto and Co. will come up with a new objection to that (they're already scaring farmers by saying the government will come into your kitchen and check your fridge!)
There would be no minimizing the incredible victory for local organizing over corporate power if these rBST-free label folks win. As for farmers who use rBST, they have to make the same decisions they always have - how to grow a product people will buy. It's not their fault, none of this is their fault, and they deserve a fair playing field. I think it's Monsanto that has made it unfair all along.
A Test Exists. Sorta
Left of Centre http://thorsteinveblen.blogspot.com
I've continued to look into the issue. The Milkweed reports in this month's issue about a test developed at Cornell in the late 90's which tests if milk comes from cows which were given rBGH. It does not test for rBGH residue in milk. Such a test could be used to verfy the claim that the "The Milk Comes From Cow Which Were Not Given rBGH", but not the claim that "The Milk is rBGH-Free"
testing shmesting
if this hormone was so safe, why the need to have a monsanto connection at the FDA when it was approved? (a man who wrote by the way the key word into the proposed language "significant" as in there's no significant difference between milk from cows treated with rbst and those not treated with it). why the label a mile long warning of so many additional health problems for the cows? why do the farmers I talked to only give it to the healthiest of their cows? when i was nursing, i could have a half glass of wine and it went right through me to the kid and knocked her out for the night. you're telling me a drug administered only every two weeks yet powerful enough to make a 1500 pound animal lame isn't passing through her milk?
look, i have to admit, i buy my milk from weis even though i drive by meyer dairy every day where i could get rbst-free milk. i bought from meyer for some time, but didn't like having to stop yet again after the food store. so there, i'm an educated consumer who still drinks the regular milk. but if a consumer wants to drink the other, how would he ever get educated? monsanto put up this straw dog of premium prices for non-rbst milk to force the state to ban the labels. now it's coming back to bite the ag sec who should've stepped just one foot outside of his comfort zone and talked to people he didn't know or agree with long enough to know this was the dumbest thing the man's probably ever done.
In Defense of Science
Left of Centre http://thorsteinveblen.blogspot.com
Suzan, I'm a bit taken aback by your dismissive attitude toward science. The first step in good policy is good science. In fact, as you allude, the genesis of the problem with rBGH appears to have had its origins in conflicts of interest within the FDA when rBGH was first approved. This has placed doubt on the science from which the policy derived. If this problem is to be resolved it will require scientific studies which are free the sort of conflicts seen in the earlier ones.
Listing a series of questions which suggest a problem without actually demonstrating a problem may be a good polemical devise, but it gets us no closer to the truth. For example, you ask
But the issue of what compounds are and are not transferd to mother's milk is more complex than your simple anecdote would suggest. While I am not expert in the field, I was able to educate myself with a bit of Googleing. Here is what one researcher has to say on the topic.The idea that what goes into the mother's mouth comes out of her milk isn't correct. Somethings she is exposed do get into the milk others do not. That point aside, I don't think the real health issue here is whether there is rBGH in milk or not. There is BGH in the milk of untreated cow, hence it would be no surprise that there is rBGH in the milk of treated cows. From what I've read both BGH and rBGH are inert in humans.
The big issue from the human health perspective is the IGF-1. There have been studies which associate an elevated level of it in in blood to breast cancer in pre-menopausal women and prostrate cancer in men. There has not been, so far as I've been able to find, any animal model studies which show causation. These studies must be done.
I think there is one issue which we can agree on. The dependency of universities on corporate funding has called into question the independence of academic scientists. It is time reestablish the firewall which once protected academic science from such conflicts. This will, of course require more federal money for academic science.
Finallly, you titled your post testing shmesting, I suppose in response to the revelation that there is a test to determine if milk comes from heards treated with rBGH. The tile seems dismissive, yet you say nothing about the possiblity of using such a test as means of objectively verifying a label. Are you opposed to such an approach?
a distraction
Veblen, remember the part where for every phd there's an equal and opposite phd? That's what's going on here. The very person who did the testing for the FDA approval study, see my story, is the same one who came up with enough evidence that all these other countries have banned the use of the hormone. I'm no scientist, but I know smoke when I see it, and creating enough smoke around this issue to keep people confused is what Monsanto wants to do. So with so much smoke, who knows which science to believe?
When I used my anecdote I was trying to illustrate the kind of common sense a consumer might use...common sense isn't always right, nor common as they say, but there are an awful lot of women out there who have the intuition - and yeah, science be damned. And that's what's driving this market, it seems. That and the confusion about the science.
You're right - the IGF-1 is the bigger issue, and what do you do with the Wall Street Journal, which has resources Voices will never have, paying for an independent study that showed the antibiotics passing through the cows at a much higher rate than the industry or regulators will admit? That is yet another concern. So it's not that I'm dismissive of the science, it's that not being a scientist I don't know what to believe, and since I spent three weeks researching this on my "off" time and still don't know, I doubt most other consumers do either.
So, then what? Then it is a question of: IF I can support a farmer who chooses not to shoot up his cows, (at higher risk to the cows, at a higher usage of antibiotics to treat the cows' mastitis etc)... would I? That choice doesn't exist when you remove the right to label the product. As some folks say, if rBST is so great, or no harm at all, then let the processors label THAT on their labels - "Milk produced with rBST to keep your dairy affordable" since that's what they're claiming anyway...and who knows? They might just find a market in that.
I don't have a lot of time to blog, so if I don't respond in a timely way, that's why, but I'm hoping others will join this debate.
Maybe you just got some manure on your shoes while at the farm
Why didn't you try to explain that cryptic reference to organics?
Here is something else to consider about the organic label. It turns out that some dairy farms weren't living up to the spirit of the regulation governing the use of the label. An activist was able to get the USDA enforce the requirements of the organic label. This is the advantage of requiring verifiable criteria for any claim made on a food label.
One final point on consumer choice. If you want milk from cows not treated with rBGH, consider this
Ultimately I have to ask, why aren't you arguing honestly? Is there a hidden agenda on your part? Perhaps what you are opposed to all genetically modified organisms (GMO) and hope a victory on the rBGH label can be leveraged in rolling back the use of all GMO. If you are against GMO, then fight the honest fight. Perhaps it's something else, but I am fairly sure you aren't being upfront on this.secret agenda? right...
Veblen - the last thing I've ever been accused of is having a secret agenda. My agenda is up front. Voices is here to amplify the voices of people and ideas that don't get amplified elsewhere. We challenge authority and celebrate community and if Monsanto and Penn State aren't authority what is? And if these rBST-free folks haven't had their own struggles to organize their efforts, who has? And when, of all things, they beat one of the world's biggest corporations at its own game - marketing - I have to celebrate. And when free marketeers like Monsanto and Terry Etherton go crying to the government to save them from those evil do-gooders, I have to say that's news because it's a contradiction that's got to be hard to live with.
The system to certify organic is expensive. That's one reason, though not the entire reason, why organics cost so much. Monsanto et al are crying on behalf of consumers to keep food affordable (see their front group Pennsylvanians for Affordable Nutrition which deserves its own story - if only we could print all those pages!) So...if the system to certify organic, which is very complex, drives up the food price, and some folks simply want to make the choice of not having that artificial hormone in their milk, why should they have to pay organics prices?
You Veblen have a little more faith in testing than I do. Talking to dairy farmers I get the sense that testing is sporadic and knowing how our public services get slashed daily in the name of budget cuts (notice we always have enough money to fund the war but never enough to provide safety inspections at job sites or protect our children from their abusive parents) I have to say there's some possiblity there. Again, I can't report that without more proof, but I can express my opinion, which is what this is here. Reading the information from the Wall Street Journal article where a terrifying amount of antibiotics were detected in milk off the shelves doesn't help either. Are they not a legit news organization? Do they have a secret agenda? No, like Voices their agenda is quite up front, so the last thing you expect to see is them blowing a hole through Big Dairy's case that all industrially-produced milk is safe.
Anyway, I gotta go do some payin' work. more later.
Testing
The "we" in that passage is the Center for Science in the Public Interest. The 19 out of 50 is 38%, hence Mr Bedford's claim that,"Other studies have found 38 percent higher levels," is likely a poorly written reference to the CSPI study, but we really don't know for sure.
The reason for all the interest, during the winter of 1989-1990, in antibiotics in milk is that in 1988 the FDA done some testing which revealed that some milk had antibiotic residue in it. The FDA then embarked on a two year educational program to change farming practices so as to reduce the contamination. It also mandated that the states must each begin to test for antibiotics in milk starting in 1989. These reports were just checking to see if the FDA program worked. Did these report indicate that the FDA had failed?
The FDA did its own study after these reports were made public.
Mass spectrometry is an extremely sensitive analytic tool which I would trust over the other methods. ( Are there any analytic chemists out there that want to weigh in this?) None the less, these discrepancies between these tests begs for additional studies. So what happened?
There were congressional hearings and and a lot of pressure on the FDA to do something. The papers in the early nineties had many stories on the issue. If you have a Schlow Library card, go to their website and search News Bank to read all of the coverage. By the mid-nineties the story drops off the radar. So again, what happened?
Did the FDA get its act together? Did the public loose interest? Without a definitive story which says that the FDA solved the problem, one cannot rule out that it was a loose of interest on the part of the public. However, there is one piece of evidence which suggests that the FDA got its act together. If you serach the CSPI web site you will find nothing about antibiotics in milk. Had this remained a problem, I think the CSPI would not have dropped it.
Perhaps now the time is right for another independent study. This time out the investigation could look to see if there are differences in antibiotic levels in milk amongst regular milk, rBGH-free milk, and organic milk. Should there be any nutrition grad students out there looking for an MS thesis topic, there's one for you.
Suzan, since we are assuming that you didn't read the WSJ article and Mr. Bradford doesn't mention the concentrations of antibiotics found in the milk, where did you get the idea that,"a terrifying amount of antibiotics were detected in milk off the shelves"? Here's what the CSPI wrote about the antibiotic levels which they found in their samples,
Finally, whatever amount of antibiotics these studies turned up, it had nothing to do with the use of rBGH, because in 1990 there was not any rBGH milk on the market.enough
You know what Veblen? You must be both retired and bored. I, on the other hand, am trying to build an independent newspaper on my off time, (which translates into mentoring a large number of young people and organizing a large number of older people into doing things for the paper on THEIR off time), while I raise a family, hold down a job, promote a book coming out in January and run a household. I asked you once to write for us, and I ask you again, but you won't come out from behind your mask long enough to do that. So continue to spend hours a day digging up great stuff, because if we have readers willing to come to this blog they'll get to see it and that will be a GOOD thing. You're not your best though, when you get insulting (I noticed with the SHV folks as well) not just informative. You're a condescending snob when you get like that, and you don't do your pen name justice.
So track down those primary sources and dig up more and more because that's what Voices readers need. It's great stuff. But there is nothing in writing that will tell you what I found out about the industry organizing to force regulators to jack up milk prices if they didn't find another solution to the problem. That's the fact and we have it in Voices and no place else. THAT's the news. Then there's the fact that these nature-lovin', sandal-flappin, tree-huggin' liberals won the marketing wars against Monsanto. That's big news too, which is why I refused to spend days and days digging up the so-called science on either side of the debate. I expect Voices readers to be a lot like you actually - if they're interested, they'll dig it up for themselves. Thankfully, they have you.
When you're ready to come up with your own stories, and stand by them in print, with a real name at the top let me know. As it is I've indulged this enough. I have to get back to my life now, the one in the real world. Keep up the great work - we love having you here!
Write to Rendell today!
This post comes from Voices Reader Bob Baillie -
Governor Rendell's Secretary of Agriculture has proposed banning milk labels
from saying that the milk is free of artificial boving growth hormones - even
when those labels are truthful!
An initial public outcry forced Rendell and Secretary Wolff to back down -
temporarily. However, the ban is still scheduled to go into effect February 1.
It is critical that as many people as possible write to Rendell and demand that
he stop this outrageous order from going into effect. We should demand that the
labels be left alone, that we consumers be treated like adults and given the
information we want so we can make our own choices.
I can't prove that Wolff is taking payoffs from Monsanto, the sole manuracturer
of these artificial hormones. What is certain is that both Wolff and Rendell
are selling out the public to Monsanto.
This is starting to happen in other states, too. At least Ohio and New Jersey
had the decency to hold public hearings. By contrast, in PA, Wolff convened a
phony, stacked, advisory committee comprised of cronies who did what Wolff told
them to do.
There's more info at
http://www.pasafarming.org/milk.htm
PASA has a direct link to the Governor's email:
http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Governor/govmail.html
This issue has been covered in the December 'Voices' and on blogs. For example,
http://www.unbossed.com/index.php?itemid=1914
Robert Baillie
State College
Who Cares About the Results of Science?
As someone who is very much pro-science, it is with some hesitation that I write a title like that.
But the point is, Veblen, that I don't give a rat's ass whether there's any trace of recombinant bgh in the milk or not.
The issue is that I have a right to know the process by which my milk was made. I choose to support farmers who use less of these artificial ingredients. I want the labels to give me the information, so that, as an adult, I can make my own decision.
True: PAN is a Front Group
A blogger did some basic research. They called the phone number on the website of Pennsylvanians for Affordable Nutrition, and guess who answered? Trisha Roberts at Triad Strategies, a lobbying firm. You can read all about it here:
http://www.unbossed.com/index.php?itemid=1866
thank you readers!
Voices readers were among the many who helped Gov. Rendell decide that his secretary of ag's decision to ban rbst-free milk labels was a BAD idea. Freedom of choice and of speech and consumers' right to know all were at issue. One of our readers reported that when he called the governor's office the woman stopped him mid-sentence and said, "Did you read this in Voices?" and he said yes and she said, there will be an announcment later today that will probably please you . She had heard from that many of our readers!
This is what a free press is all about. And this is what a community newspaper is all about. Let's keep it going!