Crazy.

I figure we will all be dealing with the emotional fallout of a community event like this Webster's thing for a long time.

Blogging is a temporal thing, most blogs have a beginning, middle, and end. When the end comes it comes.

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I like to say, "I'm not religious. That doesn't mean atheist or theist, I'm simply not religious.".

People like to say, "I'm not religious but I am spiritual.". Well, I'm not spiritual either, lol.

But for someone who is not religious, I sure have a lot of religion books.

It is more than a shame to see some people practically drooling over the demise of Webster's. Patty Kleban, who blogs as sctaxpayer, before the word had even settled into people's consciousness was on the cdt blog hammering the last nail into Webster's coffin with her comments about how that's business and if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. What is it to her? What is it to any of them? They see everything as political - but don't they see that the vitality of their own downtown is at stake? What if the Corner Room is next? Or the Waffle Shop? Would they be dancing on the grave of those places as well, saying, hey, that's the market mister, get over it? I wonder...

It was inevitable that the haters be hatin.

It's the nature of tribal war. You cheer when the other tribe fumbles.

I think they are all freaked out and superhatin because of the evidence of the political power of the websters base.

So, you could see all the gloating as a sign of their fears come to life.

Tribal war ain't pretty.

I'm curious, how you know this? I've scraped with sctaxpayer numerous times around the intertoobz and I've long suspected that the person I was batting about might be Kleban.  Can you document this or is it one of those "everybody knows" sorta things?

plus...if you study up you'll see that what gets posted here and at the cdt is very in sync with her letters to the editor and opeds that she writes, often with the same phrases etc. not to mention her appearance only at certain times on particular issues...and i'm not the first to say it, and if she denied it, well, then we'd just have to attribute it to her evil twin...if she could have an evil twin...and yeah, a friend of hers verified it...

if people are going to make personal attacks against elaine meder and dig up the past just to cast a shadow over her or simply claim she can't run a business when they don't know the facts, then they oughta have the spine to put their names on it. but hey, the internet is just a big school yard where bullies get to do even more damage because they don't have to own up to who they are. i might post anonymously but i ain't vicious. these people are pirhanas. like in any small town where they all grew up together they play out the same dynamics they lived in elementry and high school. 

It's certainly plausible, although I'd like a tigher circumstantial argument  before I went out on a limb with it. BTW, one more bit of circumstantial evidence is that sctaxpayer pimped the StateCollege.com coverage of Websters at the CDT and Patty now writes her swill for that outfit.

Scanning through these recent posts suggests that the impending demise of Websters has really brought out some of the best and worst in our community.  Now we are trying to "out" the true identity of bloggers on the CDT website. Can I play too?  Let’s see…… in his day job, Veblen goes by David Shapiro and Boderline is Adam Smeltz.  How do I know?  I heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend last Thursday night at the bar in the Autoport.  Silly, isn’t it?

From what I can see, if Patty Kleban is trying to hide her identity and her opinions, she is doing spectacularly poor job of it.  She makes her thinking clear and visible in public testimony at school board meetings, letters to the editor at CDT, and her community column at StateCollege.com. You all have the opportunity to post comments to any of the "swill" she writes with the full satisfaction knowing that you’re "battling" with the real Ms. Kleban.

yes, she IS doing a spectacularly poor job of it. thanks for agreeing! but she's hardly worth battling...like fighting with a bag of hair, as molly ivins might've put it.  she probably quit blogging here when the captcha got into the double digits. but i like it - ray gricar. why not? that would be a whole lot more fun. ray comes back to haunt centre county through the ether! it's a wonder the cdt hasn't picked up on that and put it on the front page. oh wait, they'd only do that if it involved reprinting endless columns of the same stuff we've known for how many years? well, on a slow news day you can read ferever...and kewl, i'm adam smeltz? break it to him gently! 

OK folks, this is bordering on personal attack and might well be over the line, So make your case without calling people names if you can help it. It makes for a stronger more convincing argument anyway. Thanks.